Updated v2 Agenda for 20–27
MEETING OF ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22/WG 14 AND INCITS/C
WG 14/N 3136
Each day will have a half-hour break from 16:00-16:30 UTC.
|Tuesday,||20||June,||2023||14:30 – 18:00 UTC|
|Wednesday,||21||June,||2023||14:30 – 18:00 UTC|
|Thursday,||22||June,||2023||14:30 – 18:00 UTC|
|Friday,||23||June,||2023||14:30 – 18:00 UTC|
|Monday,||26||June,||2023||14:30 – 18:00 UTC||(ONLY IF NEEDED)|
|Tuesday,||27||June,||2023||14:30 – 18:00 UTC||(ONLY IF NEEDED)|
This meeting is virtual via Zoom.
Please see the ISO Meetings platform (log into login.iso.org and click on Meetings) or contact the convenor for the URL and password.
David Keaton <firstname.lastname@example.org>
1.1 Opening Comments (Keaton)
1.2 Introduction of Participants/Roll Call
1.3 Procedures for this Meeting (Keaton)
1.4 Required Reading
1.4.1 ISO Code of Ethics and Conduct1.5 Approval of Previous Minutes
1.4.2 ISO Guidance and Process
1.4.3 IEC Code of Conduct
1.4.4 JTC 1 Summary of Key Points [N 2613]
1.4.5 INCITS Code of ConductWG 14 Minutes, January, 2023 [N 3116] (WG 14 motion)1.6 Review of Action Items and Resolutions
WG 14 Minutes, February, 2023 [N 3113] (WG 14 motion)
INCITS/C Minutes, January 2023 [pl22.11-2023-00004] (INCITS/C motion)
INCITS/C Minutes, February 2023 [pl22.11-2023-00005] (INCITS/C motion)
1.7 Approval of Agenda [N 3136] (INCITS/C motion, WG 14 motion)
1.8 Identify National Bodies Sending Experts
1.9 INCITS Antitrust Guidelines and Patent Policy
1.10 INCITS Social Media
1.11 INCITS official designated member/alternate information
1.12 Note where we are in the current C23 schedule [N 3132]
Only an abbreviated report will be made at this meeting.
2.1 ISO TS status
ISO/CS has rejected the idea of Technical Specifications that define extensions to a standard. This conflicts with the ISO/IEC Directives Part 2, which states that one purpose of TSes is for topics that are under development. The convenor is working with the SC 22 committee manager to explain this better to ISO/CS, as it affects almost all SC 22 TSes, not just those from WG 14. We will keep the committee up to date.
If we have to stop producing TSes, ISO has suggested that the same material could be published as SC 22 whitepapers.
No reports expected for this meeting.
The TS 6010 DIS ballot was rejected by ISO/CS due to their new ruling about TSes. The final disposition has not yet been determined due to negotiations with ISO/CS about TSes.
4.1 Future Meeting Schedule
4.2 Future Mailing Deadlines
- 16-20 October, 2023 Virtual 13:30-17:00 UTC (proposed for discussion of TS 18661 Parts 4 and 5, and group administration)
- 22-26 January, 2024 Hybrid (proposed for DIS 9899 ballot resolution)Note: Please request document numbers by one week before these dates.
- Pre-Virtual-202310 – 15 September, 2023
- Post-Virtual-202310 – 17 November, 2023
- Pre-Hybrid 202401 – 15 December, 2023
- Post-Hybrid 202401 – 23 February, 2024
The purpose of this meeting is CD2 9899 ballot resolution.
CD2 9899 ballot comments [N 3131]
Other documents to which we may refer as needed:Proposed Plan:
Seacord, Six versus eight-digit short identifiers v2 [N 3111]
Seacord, Compatible Types [N 3112]
Uecker, Forward Declaration of Parameters v2 (Updates N2780) [N 3121]
Uecker, Composite Type for Structures and Unions [N 3122]
Uecker, Clarification of Declaration Contexts [N 3123]
Jabot, Aligning Universal Character Names Constraints with C++ [N 3124]
Ballman, Rebuttal to N2713 Integer Constant Expressions [N 3125]
Uecker, Taming the Demons -- Undefined Behavior and Partial Program Correctness [N 3128]
Thomas, CFP response to NB comments for CD2 [N 3135]
TS 6010 related:
Gustedt, TS6010 draft for CD ballot [N 3057]
UK, Late Comments for CD TS 6010 [N 3117]
1. Since we agreed not to include color in the DIS, reject the color-related editorial comments for C23 but add them to the WG 14 Gitlab issues. (GB-086, GB-109, GB-145)
2. Briefly discuss the editorial comment DE-066.
3. Move three technical comments marked editorial to the technical discussion. (FR-132, FR-133, FR-134)
4. Address all editorial comments called out for special action in the CFP response (N 3135, listed above).
5. Accept all remaining editorial comments together.
6. Briefly discuss each of the non-editorial comments including FR-132, FR-133, and FR-134.
Note: There is time for approximately 10 minutes of discussion per technical comment.
The previous queue of clarification requests has been processed.
8.1 Review of Decisions Reached
8.2 Review of Action Items
9.1 Identification of INCITS/C Voting Members
9.1.1 Members Attaining initial Voting Rights at this Meeting9.2 INCITS/C Voting Members in Jeopardy
9.1.2 Members who regained voting rights
9.2.1 Members in jeopardy due to failure to vote on Letter Ballots9.3 INCITS/C Non-voting Members
9.2.2 Members in jeopardy due to failure to attend Meetings
220.127.116.11 Members in jeopardy who retained voting rights by attending this meeting
18.104.22.168 Members in jeopardy who lost voting rights for failure to attend this meeting
9.3.1 Prospective INCITS/C Members Attending their First Meeting9.4 Other Business
9.3.2 Advisory members who are attending this meeting
10.1 Thanks to ISO for supplying Zoom capabilities