From keld Sat Nov 8 08:55:48 1997 Received: (from keld@localhost) by dkuug.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA02728 for iso14766; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 08:55:48 +0100 Message-Id: <199711080755.IAA02728@dkuug.dk> From: keld@dkuug.dk (Keld J|rn Simonsen) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 08:55:47 +0100 X-Charset: ISO-8859-1 X-Char-Esc: 29 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mnemonic-Intro: 29 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.2 4/12/91) To: iso14766 Subject: IEEE minutes Minutes for National Profiles and National Locales (IEEE P1494): Meeting called to order at 9:25am Wednesday July 16, 1997. Introduction of Participants: Nobuo Saito - Keio University (Chair) ns@sfc.keio.ac.jp Don Cragun - Sun Microsystems, Inc. (acting secretary) dwc@eng.sun.com Andrew Josey - The Open Group ajosey@opengroup.org Wai-Man Long - Digital Equipment Corp longman@zk3.dec.com Sandra martin O'Donnell - Digital Equipment Corp odonnell@zk3.dec.com Don Cragun agreed to act as secretary for this meeting. There is already a WG15 work item (14766) for this project. The WG15 Technical Editor for this project is Keld Simonsen. The PAR for this project was approved by IEEE in December 1996. This is the first meeting of the working group. Professor Saito would like to have few face-to-face meetings and handle the rest of the work by email. Sandra noted that there was the X/Open Joint Internationalization Group that has adopted about 20 national profiles. The profiles registered there for Canada and Japan has been well accepted, but most of the other country profiles have not been widely adopted. There was some discussion about the need for a guide in this area given that few countries seem to be actively producing national profiles. There was agreement that system vendors would like to see more national profiles. ISO TR 10000 documents how to produce profiles, but the intent is that this group should provide more specific guidance on how to produce locales and profiles based on the POSIX.2 localedef facilities. There is also a section in IEEE Std 1003.0-1995 dealing with I18N, but it does not seem to apply to this work. There was a discussion about how far this group should go. If it limits itself to POSIX, it won't apply to Java, GUIs, and other areas. But, if we limit the scope to POSIX, it is more likely to be useful for the topic it covers. There is no intent at this time to produce profiles and locales based anything other than POSIX. Except for Professor Saito, we found that none of the attendees expect to atively partipate in this project. It was suggested that the chair try to contact other people by email to see if active participation can be found for continued work by email. If none can be found, the IEEE PASC PAR should be withdrawn. Meeting adjourned at 11:05am.