Hi,
Stephen Michell is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
Topic: SC 22/WG 23 Meeting 77
Time: May 20, 2024 15:00 Universal Time UTC
https://iso.zoom.us/j/95278333432?pwd=M2hYNHFqNUlJaVE4TUJmQW50ZmNJUT09
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The main meeting schedule is to progress documents in sub-WG meetings. On an as-needed basis a meeting of the full group is scheduled to progress work to SC 22 for ISO balloting, to propose to SC 22 add or remove documents from the WG 23 schedule and to manage general WG 23 work.
The main topic of this meeting is the free availability of ISO/IEC 24772, all parts. Note from the SC 22 chair:
Today
in a meeting of JTC 1/AHG 5, the JTC 1 chair announced that ISO and
IEC have largely approved our request to improve the criteria for
no-cost availability of deliverables.
This
directly affects some SC 22 documents favorably, notably at the
moment a suite of documents in development in WG 23, but also
others.
I
have attached two documents that show the results. If ISO
incorrectly rejects your application for no-cost availability, you
can show them these documents to explain why they should have been
accepted.
The
new criteria are laid out clearly on the last page of the first
document, JTC 1/AHG 5 N 49. Most importantly to us, amendments
and revisions of documents that were previously approved for free
availability will now be approved as long as their scope has not been
expanded. There are a few things to note.
*
ISO and IEC have approved these new criteria for a one-year
trial period (as shown in the second attached document). The
JTC 1 chair notes that it will probably not be exactly a year; it
could be anywhere from 9-18 months. Consequently, now is the
time to push through any documents that you want to get approved
under the new criteria. There is a good chance the new criteria
will be extended after the trial period, but there are no
guarantees.
*
Technical Reports and Technical Specifications have had their
eligibility restored. There is no longer a need to upgrade a
document to a standard for the sole purpose of getting it approved
for no-cost availability.
*
There will be a new web site for free downloads, and it will
require people to create an account for themselves and tell ISO and
IEC who they are. This does not affect their ability to get
documents for free; ISO and IEC are just frustrated that currently
there are no data on how widely no-cost documents are being used, and
they want to collect some.
*
The current free download web site says that the documents are
being made available for purposes of standardization. ISO and
IEC recognize that this statement is meaningless because *all*
documents are available for free for the purpose of standardization.
They recognize that because everyone knows this, they will see
that the statement on the web site is meaningless and will ignore it.
However, they are going to retain the wording because some
companies have downloaded free ISO and IEC documents and bundled them
into larger libraries for sale, and there needs to be some kind of
statement that says they can't do that. The current statement
is not ideal for that purpose, but they are retaining it while they
think about what to do.
I
want to acknowledge the JTC 1 chair for leading the charge and
pressing our case to ISO and IEC. The current success would not
have been achieved without his enthusiastic support.
24772-1 is in the final stages of balloting as an IS, hence re-balloting it now as a TR seems pointless. However, it is possible that we will want to ballot the other parts, 24772-2 Ada, 24772-3 C, etc. as TR/'s is open for discussion.
The documents that the SC 22 chair talks about are registered as WG 23 documents N1384 and 1385.
N1326 WG 24772-8 Fortran language vulnerabilities